Comments for A Book Review of The Shack http://theshackreview.wordpress.com Just another WordPress.com weblog Sun, 13 Sep 2009 22:04:25 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 Comment on Chapter Four – The Great Sadness. by Margie http://theshackreview.wordpress.com/2007/11/15/chapter-four-the-great-sadness/#comment-444 Margie Sun, 13 Sep 2009 22:04:25 +0000 http://theshackreview.wordpress.com/2007/11/15/chapter-four-the-great-sadness/#comment-444 I agree Brad. Look at how many different Christian religions are out there and they are all reading the same Bible.Our perception of God is just that--a perception! This book has brought me closer to Jesus and his understanding of the purpose of forgiveness is beautiful. For me this understanding of God is life enhancing! I agree Brad. Look at how many different Christian religions are out there and they are all reading the same Bible.Our perception of God is just that–a perception! This book has brought me closer to Jesus and his understanding of the purpose of forgiveness is beautiful. For me this understanding of God is life enhancing!

]]> Comment on Chapter Four – The Great Sadness. by Margie http://theshackreview.wordpress.com/2007/11/15/chapter-four-the-great-sadness/#comment-443 Margie Sun, 13 Sep 2009 21:55:18 +0000 http://theshackreview.wordpress.com/2007/11/15/chapter-four-the-great-sadness/#comment-443 Nicole-I saw a story one evening on I think it was the discovery channel. This is a true story. The man went on a hiking trip in the desert out west somewhere. He was a very devout Christian and bible reader. He got lost. His family began searching for him. After several days they found some of his belongings. One item was his Bible. His wife freaked out saying he must be dead because he would go nowhere with out his Bible. Lo and behold the man found his way back out of the desert. He had been lost for believe it or not about 40 days! When they questioned him on how he survived he said he was lead to where to get water and find food. They asked him why he left his Bible. His answer was--he didn't need it anymore! I listened to this man say that! He experience the lord! We cannot know God by just reading words in a Bible! I love the perception of God this book potrays. This is also the God of my understanding! The concept of forgiveness is beautiful and as I see it the avenue to conscious contact with God. This book may not line up with religious dogma--it does line up with spiritual experience! Nicole-I saw a story one evening on I think it was the discovery channel. This is a true story. The man went on a hiking trip in the desert out west somewhere. He was a very devout Christian and bible reader. He got lost. His family began searching for him. After several days they found some of his belongings. One item was his Bible. His wife freaked out saying he must be dead because he would go nowhere with out his Bible. Lo and behold the man found his way back out of the desert. He had been lost for believe it or not about 40 days! When they questioned him on how he survived he said he was lead to where to get water and find food. They asked him why he left his Bible. His answer was–he didn’t need it anymore! I listened to this man say that! He experience the lord! We cannot know God by just reading words in a Bible! I love the perception of God this book potrays. This is also the God of my understanding! The concept of forgiveness is beautiful and as I see it the avenue to conscious contact with God. This book may not line up with religious dogma–it does line up with spiritual experience!

]]> Comment on Chapter 11 – Here Come Da Judge by Doug http://theshackreview.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/chapter-11-here-come-da-judge/#comment-441 Doug Sun, 14 Jun 2009 16:28:15 +0000 http://theshackreview.wordpress.com/?p=33#comment-441 I read the book, and it was a good story, many visuals one can paint for his or herself, so that was good. My sense is that it is a book mainly for those in need of a healing. Forgiveness healings. After that, it is a good story, one that is Not complete,..at least scripturally in my opinion. The book does a wonderfull job on the awesome aspects of God and His Grace and love. While He forgives, so shall we forgive. Let us Not Judge least we be judged. The Book clearly outlines wonderfull Ear tickling attributes from God and for us to learn and live by. With that being said, I have serious concerns about the Dangers of the Book. Those dangers are what\'s Not in the book. Perhaps the author choose not to address them or it was not an end all of All that there is either ( which is what I beleive it is not and end all ). Mack never talks or asks about Satan or the Evil one. The Book of Daniel sure does, and Paul clearly teaches are battle is spiritual from the Devil. Ephesians 6: chapters 10-20. Then we have Revelations. We have Jesus talking about being concerned about the One who can both destroy the body and the Soul as well. These are what is dangerous about the book in my view. It leaves out Hell, judgement, the Devil, all of which are real and especailly the Devil and the main Anti Christ, these are what we live with until the Lords Day comes. I don\'t understand why some Pastor and Church LEaders are so quick to blog about how good this book is with not even a slight waving of a warning flag of some sort. The Devil is tricky beloved. Guard yourselves and be VERY carefull out there. God is Love, God is Spirt yes He is our God, but, yes But, the evil one roams the earth like a lion and can decieve the very elect. I am not saying this about this book, but if you believe that part is true about the Devil, then becarful not to Sugar Coat God and His Judgement and the pouring out of His Wrath that is to come and Will Come. I bet you would\'nt see that coming from Papa in this story, would you? SOme people have amovie being made with Queen Latiffa being God, could you see her saying on the Silver Screen what Jesus says is coming and what Revelations says and what IS going to happen on Judgement Day? I think you would\'nt, why? It would ruin the movie and the feelings of love joy and everything is going to be alright aspect that some new churches preach. I bet it won\'t come up much in the new study groups at some Church\'s in the name of this book. Beloved, this book is ok and has good stuff, don\'t get me wrong. But Clearly, do not lose sight of the warnings Christ spoke of and how it all ends. It is Not all flowers and Roses out there, keep focused and know that He JEsus is our Lord and Savior. I say all these things because it is a confusing world out there. Jehovah Witnesses preach Jesus is a created being or an Angel so this book would not be for them. The Mormans believe what the teach about JEsus and Satan, the Seventh Day Adventest teach their views and so on and so on. Becareful not to read my post and take it as gospel or a blog or post from someone that says they are a Pastor and take it in Hook line and sinker that this is Good and God is blessing this Book Fully and Completely. I\'m just sayin,....... I read the book, and it was a good story, many visuals one can paint for his or herself, so that was good. My sense is that it is a book mainly for those in need of a healing. Forgiveness healings. After that, it is a good story, one that is Not complete,..at least scripturally in my opinion. The book does a wonderfull job on the awesome aspects of God and His Grace and love. While He forgives, so shall we forgive. Let us Not Judge least we be judged. The Book clearly outlines wonderfull Ear tickling attributes from God and for us to learn and live by. With that being said, I have serious concerns about the Dangers of the Book. Those dangers are what\’s Not in the book. Perhaps the author choose not to address them or it was not an end all of All that there is either ( which is what I beleive it is not and end all ). Mack never talks or asks about Satan or the Evil one. The Book of Daniel sure does, and Paul clearly teaches are battle is spiritual from the Devil. Ephesians 6: chapters 10-20. Then we have Revelations. We have Jesus talking about being concerned about the One who can both destroy the body and the Soul as well. These are what is dangerous about the book in my view. It leaves out Hell, judgement, the Devil, all of which are real and especailly the Devil and the main Anti Christ, these are what we live with until the Lords Day comes. I don\’t understand why some Pastor and Church LEaders are so quick to blog about how good this book is with not even a slight waving of a warning flag of some sort. The Devil is tricky beloved. Guard yourselves and be VERY carefull out there. God is Love, God is Spirt yes He is our God, but, yes But, the evil one roams the earth like a lion and can decieve the very elect. I am not saying this about this book, but if you believe that part is true about the Devil, then becarful not to Sugar Coat God and His Judgement and the pouring out of His Wrath that is to come and Will Come. I bet you would\’nt see that coming from Papa in this story, would you? SOme people have amovie being made with Queen Latiffa being God, could you see her saying on the Silver Screen what Jesus says is coming and what Revelations says and what IS going to happen on Judgement Day? I think you would\’nt, why? It would ruin the movie and the feelings of love joy and everything is going to be alright aspect that some new churches preach. I bet it won\’t come up much in the new study groups at some Church\’s in the name of this book. Beloved, this book is ok and has good stuff, don\’t get me wrong. But Clearly, do not lose sight of the warnings Christ spoke of and how it all ends. It is Not all flowers and Roses out there, keep focused and know that He JEsus is our Lord and Savior. I say all these things because it is a confusing world out there. Jehovah Witnesses preach Jesus is a created being or an Angel so this book would not be for them. The Mormans believe what the teach about JEsus and Satan, the Seventh Day Adventest teach their views and so on and so on. Becareful not to read my post and take it as gospel or a blog or post from someone that says they are a Pastor and take it in Hook line and sinker that this is Good and God is blessing this Book Fully and Completely. I\’m just sayin,…….

]]> Comment on Chapter Two – The Gathering Dark by Irim http://theshackreview.wordpress.com/2007/11/08/chapter-two-the-gathering-dark/#comment-440 Irim Sat, 23 May 2009 21:57:17 +0000 http://theshackreview.wordpress.com/2007/11/08/chapter-two-the-gathering-dark/#comment-440 Fantastic discussion, but my point here will be a nitpicky one and might be worth correcting. Mack only had TWO daughters, Katie and Missy. He didn't take THREE daughters on this camping trip, he took TWO daughters - remember, there were only two in the conversation, and ONE son, Josh. It's a tiny thing, but it's important for later, and it can show a carelessness of reading that may undermine far more important points that you make later on because people aren't sure you've read it closely enough to get the detail down. As for God, He is infinite and why shouldn't there be many names for him? Is it that it matters to Him or that it matters to YOU? And if the latter, are you in danger of 'God in the box' syndrome? xx Fantastic discussion, but my point here will be a nitpicky one and might be worth correcting.

Mack only had TWO daughters, Katie and Missy. He didn’t take THREE daughters on this camping trip, he took TWO daughters – remember, there were only two in the conversation, and ONE son, Josh.

It’s a tiny thing, but it’s important for later, and it can show a carelessness of reading that may undermine far more important points that you make later on because people aren’t sure you’ve read it closely enough to get the detail down.

As for God, He is infinite and why shouldn’t there be many names for him? Is it that it matters to Him or that it matters to YOU? And if the latter, are you in danger of ‘God in the box’ syndrome?

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]]> Comment on Chapter Four – The Great Sadness. by Nicole http://theshackreview.wordpress.com/2007/11/15/chapter-four-the-great-sadness/#comment-439 Nicole Wed, 20 May 2009 22:52:16 +0000 http://theshackreview.wordpress.com/2007/11/15/chapter-four-the-great-sadness/#comment-439 Genesis 38:7 "Er, Judah's firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the Lord , and THE LORD PUT HIM TO DEATH" Numbers 15:35 "And the Lord said to Moses, "The man shall be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp." 1 Samuel 2:25 ""If someone sins against a man, God will mediate for him, but if someone sins against the Lord , who can intercede for him?" But they would not listen to the voice of their father, for IT WAS THE WILL OF THE LORD TO PUT THEM TO DEATH." 1 Chronicles 10:14 "He did not seek guidance from the Lord . Therefore the Lord put him to death and turned the kingdom over to David the son of Jesse." _____________________________________________ I do not know why I still bother. I know that The Shack has sold more than five million copies. And, I'll be honest, I think there is a spirit of disillusionment. The Bible, repeatedly, talks about the Lord's hand in death. In passages like I listed. In the dealings with Job. But people are bound and determined to believe what they want to believe, because it makes them feel better about God, and their suffering. Satan did come to steal and destroy. But do not err in supposing he has stolen any of the Lord's sovereignty, or power. He had to ask permission to afflict Job - that has not changed. I am not immune to the sufferings of others. People very close to me have suffered affairs, miscarriages, loss of mothers, and brothers and grandpas. Lost daddys to suicide. Almost lost family to drug addiction and alcohol abuse. Felt the pains of rejection, and the knowledge that their little one is born with down syndrome. The greater comfort comes though, in knowing God is in control, than in supposing He did not involve Himself in what has gone on in our fallen world. Genesis 38:7 “Er, Judah’s firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the Lord , and THE LORD PUT HIM TO DEATH”

Numbers 15:35 “And the Lord said to Moses, “The man shall be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp.”

1 Samuel 2:25 “”If someone sins against a man, God will mediate for him, but if someone sins against the Lord , who can intercede for him?” But they would not listen to the voice of their father, for IT WAS THE WILL OF THE LORD TO PUT THEM TO DEATH.”

1 Chronicles 10:14 “He did not seek guidance from the Lord . Therefore the Lord put him to death and turned the kingdom over to David the son of Jesse.”

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I do not know why I still bother. I know that The Shack has sold more than five million copies. And, I’ll be honest, I think there is a spirit of disillusionment. The Bible, repeatedly, talks about the Lord’s hand in death. In passages like I listed. In the dealings with Job. But people are bound and determined to believe what they want to believe, because it makes them feel better about God, and their suffering.

Satan did come to steal and destroy. But do not err in supposing he has stolen any of the Lord’s sovereignty, or power. He had to ask permission to afflict Job – that has not changed.

I am not immune to the sufferings of others. People very close to me have suffered affairs, miscarriages, loss of mothers, and brothers and grandpas. Lost daddys to suicide. Almost lost family to drug addiction and alcohol abuse. Felt the pains of rejection, and the knowledge that their little one is born with down syndrome. The greater comfort comes though, in knowing God is in control, than in supposing He did not involve Himself in what has gone on in our fallen world.

]]> Comment on Chapter Four – The Great Sadness. by Steve Grove http://theshackreview.wordpress.com/2007/11/15/chapter-four-the-great-sadness/#comment-438 Steve Grove Tue, 19 May 2009 04:00:00 +0000 http://theshackreview.wordpress.com/2007/11/15/chapter-four-the-great-sadness/#comment-438 It's funny that they say "Throw the Bible out" yet use it to get the "true" name of God. The Bible is part of God's revelation to us, the revelation of who He is. It is the only tangable thing unifying His followers. His Spirit is doing that as well, but you cannot leave the revelation He has given us. The final revelation of Himself was Jesus, and that is what the New Testament is all about. Anson and Corey's God isn't big enough to ensure that what men put down is truth - I'm sorry you have that view. As to "belief", that is tied to holiness, not mere mental assent to knowledge. In our belief we are called to be like Christ, to be changed by the Spirit at work in us.2 Corinthians 3 uses the analogy of looking into a mirror, that we are being changed from glory to glory (revelation of the character of God). That is what the Old Testament is - a revelation of who God is. Both Corey and Anson are putting words in Nicile's mouth that she did not say. It’s funny that they say “Throw the Bible out” yet use it to get the “true” name of God. The Bible is part of God’s revelation to us, the revelation of who He is. It is the only tangable thing unifying His followers. His Spirit is doing that as well, but you cannot leave the revelation He has given us. The final revelation of Himself was Jesus, and that is what the New Testament is all about.
Anson and Corey’s God isn’t big enough to ensure that what men put down is truth – I’m sorry you have that view.
As to “belief”, that is tied to holiness, not mere mental assent to knowledge. In our belief we are called to be like Christ, to be changed by the Spirit at work in us.2 Corinthians 3 uses the analogy of looking into a mirror, that we are being changed from glory to glory (revelation of the character of God). That is what the Old Testament is – a revelation of who God is.
Both Corey and Anson are putting words in Nicile’s mouth that she did not say.

]]> Comment on Chapter Four – The Great Sadness. by Anson http://theshackreview.wordpress.com/2007/11/15/chapter-four-the-great-sadness/#comment-436 Anson Fri, 24 Apr 2009 15:23:15 +0000 http://theshackreview.wordpress.com/2007/11/15/chapter-four-the-great-sadness/#comment-436 Corey is right, you can't take the bible quite so literal, you have to remember that the bible has been altered by man. First by Constantine, then by King James to make the bible more appealing to their people. Reading the bible is great but it is really just a guideline, it is not the true spoken word of god because it has been altered many times throughout history. Having your own personal relationship with God is much more important than being a bible scholar. Nowhere in the bible does it say that he who knows the bible best will be allowed into heaven. It is rather simply he who believes will not perish but have ever lasting life. Corey is right, you can’t take the bible quite so literal, you have to remember that the bible has been altered by man. First by Constantine, then by King James to make the bible more appealing to their people. Reading the bible is great but it is really just a guideline, it is not the true spoken word of god because it has been altered many times throughout history. Having your own personal relationship with God is much more important than being a bible scholar. Nowhere in the bible does it say that he who knows the bible best will be allowed into heaven. It is rather simply he who believes will not perish but have ever lasting life.

]]> Comment on Chapter Four – The Great Sadness. by dANIEcONNELL http://theshackreview.wordpress.com/2007/11/15/chapter-four-the-great-sadness/#comment-435 dANIEcONNELL Wed, 15 Apr 2009 22:38:29 +0000 http://theshackreview.wordpress.com/2007/11/15/chapter-four-the-great-sadness/#comment-435 Nicole. among any others who missed this point- you missed out on Genesis... death was NOT part of the Lord's plan- it came as a consequence to Adam's sin- its why he was removed from the garden so that he could no longer eat from the tree of life which in point he had complete access to prior to the eating of the fruit of the tree of knowledge incident. Death was a consequence NOT an original part of the plan. Though the Lord made provision for sin's existence in His perfect creation does not mean it was His PLAN... Only satan came to kill steal and destroy. and hes still very much here and very much filled with hatred towards us. So the Lord makes His way no matter what satan tries to do to pervert his beloved. (us) Nicole. among any others who missed this point- you missed out on Genesis… death was NOT part of the Lord’s plan- it came as a consequence to Adam’s sin- its why he was removed from the garden so that he could no longer eat from the tree of life which in point he had complete access to prior to the eating of the fruit of the tree of knowledge incident. Death was a consequence NOT an original part of the plan.
Though the Lord made provision for sin’s existence in His perfect creation does not mean it was His PLAN…
Only satan came to kill steal and destroy. and hes still very much here and very much filled with hatred towards us. So the Lord makes His way no matter what satan tries to do to pervert his beloved. (us)

]]> Comment on In The Belly of The Beasts – Chapter Twelve by Hilda http://theshackreview.wordpress.com/2008/06/20/in-the-belly-of-the-beasts-chapter-twelve/#comment-434 Hilda Sat, 21 Mar 2009 05:12:46 +0000 http://theshackreview.wordpress.com/?p=34#comment-434 I understand Tara's words here. I have experienced the loss of a child and this book did nothing to help. I found the book to be nonBiblical in many areas. I would not recommend this book as inspirational. I still have my belief however I do have to pray for God to give me faith in Him even though I do not understand all of his ways. This book insults my knowledge of the Bible and brings no insights. I understand Tara’s words here. I have experienced the loss of a child and this book did nothing to help. I found the book to be nonBiblical in many areas. I would not recommend this book as inspirational. I still have my belief however I do have to pray for God to give me faith in Him even though I do not understand all of his ways.
This book insults my knowledge of the Bible and brings no insights.

]]> Comment on Chapter Four – The Great Sadness. by Brianna http://theshackreview.wordpress.com/2007/11/15/chapter-four-the-great-sadness/#comment-433 Brianna Sat, 21 Mar 2009 00:00:03 +0000 http://theshackreview.wordpress.com/2007/11/15/chapter-four-the-great-sadness/#comment-433 I was reading this post and want to share my opinion. I believe that the bible is the true spoken word of God. We need to feed our spirits on the word of God daily to get us through hardships in life. God speaks to us directly through prayers and so forth, this is true, but God also speaks and brings revelation through reading his holy scriptures. Please do not stop reading your bible, we have to trust God when he says this is his spoken word (bible) God will bring truth through the word and write in on the walls of your heart. Keep reading!! God is amazing. :) I was reading this post and want to share my opinion.

I believe that the bible is the true spoken word of God. We need to feed our spirits on the word of God daily to get us through hardships in life. God speaks to us directly through prayers and so forth, this is true, but God also speaks and brings revelation through reading his holy scriptures. Please do not stop reading your bible, we have to trust God when he says this is his spoken word (bible) God will bring truth through the word and write in on the walls of your heart. Keep reading!! God is amazing. :)

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